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Prixmo
New Member
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 Posted - 04/15/2009 : 22:50:05
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Originally posted by 70 Boys
Prixmo I just read your post above. Im not saying or making BIR out to be the bad guy. I just reflected off the new BIR payout chart that you guys posted. I really like the payouts with a
request to split the remaining unpaid spots in the payout chart among the 3rd round losers. BIR has posted to already pay that full amount so does it seem unfair that I suggest to spread it out evenly to more cars ? I felt that was an honest and fair statement to make.
This is the BIR forum - We are here to suggest any supportive ideas and promote the sport of drag racing. With that said my intent was never to offend any of the BIR staff but to possibly help promote more interest to all parties involved.
Dave Engler
Dave I was not directing my response at any one individual but just a general response to what i feel is unfair negativism towards BIR. Does Rock or Grove add their unpaid round money (odd number of cars) back into payouts? ( I really do not know the answer and am looking for clarification)
Unfortunately those with the least amount of common sense are unaware of their lack of it |
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Lenny5160
Junior Member
USA
278 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2009 : 23:04:05
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Originally posted by Prixmo
Dave I was not directing my response at any one individual but just a general response to what i feel is unfair negativism towards BIR. Does Rock or Grove add their unpaid round money (odd number of cars) back into payouts? ( I really do not know the answer and am looking for clarification)
No, nobody does that and that is another area where buybacks <ducking the rock Andy is throwing> have been known to cause evil. Plenty of tracks out there have given a racer or two a free buyback to ensure a 3-car semifinal but that is neither here nor there.
Andy and Brandon, where is your dad? I have heard him expound on the virtues of a round money policy before. It gives your customers (racers) definitive knowledge of what they are racing for each and every round of every race no matter how many entered. It takes the same effort and skill to win 2 rounds no matter how many other pairs go down the track. Why should that same effort be rewarded on some occasions and not on others in the same class at the same track? How does that make sense? For that matter, why do the payouts for, say, 1/4 finalists get better along the scale even though no additional rounds were needed to get there? Now, more opponents (entries) create more rounds, and winning more rounds should pay more; I agree. But I would rather see 3rd round get paid all the time than the winner's purse increase by a paltry amount.
By staying home I am doing my part to keep the car count below 64, ensuring that third-round losers everywhere get their fair share!
Tony Leonard |
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70 Boys
Administrator
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2009 : 23:09:26
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No they don't but they only have a fraction of the cars BIR does.
Their deal has always been a guaranteed payout no matter the car counts.
That's what has made those other tracks prosperous with low car counts at times. People keep going back for those reasons - they know what to expect and its always been the same. Consistency.
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andyschmall
Junior Member
245 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2009 : 23:14:10
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| Woah Tony, the Thunder at the Lakes was a failure as soon as those full page ads hit National Dragster. There was no one there because the race was setup totally wrong. My dad likes to go to some of those big dollar races but we didn't go to that race because there was no round money and a big entry fee. |
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Lenny5160
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 04/15/2009 : 23:20:46
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Originally posted by andyschmall
Woah Tony, the Thunder at the Lakes was a failure as soon as those full page ads hit National Dragster. There was no one there because the race was setup totally wrong. My dad likes to go to some of those big dollar races but we didn't go to that race because there was no round money and a big entry fee.
I was at Byron that weekend too, for the same reasons. Did you say you didn't go to a race because there was no round money???? 
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andyschmall
Junior Member
245 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2009 : 23:25:18
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Yes. Although I'm not sure what you meant by that because all the payout suggestions that I made include good round money and a higher payout. All this thread is missing now is Travis.... I wonder if they locked him up for the night.
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Lenny5160
Junior Member
USA
278 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2009 : 23:40:11
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Originally posted by andyschmall
Yes. Although I'm not sure what you meant by that because all the payout suggestions that I made include good round money and a higher payout. All this thread is missing now is Travis.... I wonder if they locked him up for the night.
I know, Andy. My "no splits" record includes Byron so I also think their structure is good and is round-money based. I just don't think a track pulling a lot of racers from rural MN and states to the West can do what they are doing down there in northern Illinois. Bigger money to win and buybacks just add to the expense of racing and people start getting out the fishing rods and golf clubs. As it stands, I am 31 years old and am still a young punk in the lanes. I fear that this sport may not be around much longer (how many gearhead friends do you have at college?) as it is and would like to see something that keeps the more casual, hobbyist racers in the lanes for awhile.
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andyschmall
Junior Member
245 Posts |
Posted - 04/15/2009 : 23:57:21
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I can agree with you there. So we have to bring the money races to Grove Creek!! An hour from the Twin Cities and St. Cloud! Cold day in hell before Grove Creek has a big dollar race...
Although we complain... you have to think of it this way. Between all of the tracks around here we get to be pretty good racers.
The spin to win at Rock Falls, and dialing without a time trial at Brainerd explains why we've sent a racer to Pomona every year since the program started!
One thing that I don't get is why Brainerd is charging for their "Test N Tune Plus" Does it really cost the track any more money? I think it should be a free incentive for people who are testing. I'm sure it would draw a few more testers.
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Travis Sorokie
Junior Member
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2009 : 11:19:01
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