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Travis Sorokie
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USA
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Posted - 02/20/2008 :  17:41:16  Show Profile  Visit Travis Sorokie's Homepage  Send Travis Sorokie a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I see the Reserved Parking price did not go down in 2008---even though there is one Bracket Event less. But, it did remain the same I guess...$200 for no electric, $275 with electric.

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70 Boys
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USA
270 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  09:47:48  Show Profile  Visit 70 Boys's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Last year I had a few issues where the electricity wouldn't even run the battery chargers in June and July let alone the air. They stated new outlets have been installed and that wont be a problem in 2008. I reluctantly paid the $275 for 2008 and hopefully there wont be any issues with those breakers again this year. I had to run my generator for the June and July race in 2007.It would be nice if those frustrations could be eliminated this year.

70 Boys
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Travis Sorokie
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USA
326 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  10:09:44  Show Profile  Visit Travis Sorokie's Homepage  Send Travis Sorokie a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'm curious to see what the payout is going to be this season...it's not on BIR's site yet---wonder why??? Hopefully, they will reward the class when there are more than 85 entries.
Perhaps if they would 'cut down' on the "Security" staff the payout can go up. I'm not sure what those guys do anyway besides ride around in BIR trucks. I've NEVER seen "Security" at any other track like BIR has.

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Edited by - Travis Sorokie on 02/21/2008 10:11:40
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FastnFurious
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130 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  10:33:07  Show Profile  Visit FastnFurious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In regard to payout, Maybe they can copy this payout from GLD $80 to enter $2500 to win and payout starting with 2nd round winner at $50. Oh and no camping fee. My gosh how will this track survive!


http://www.greatlakesdragaway.com/index.php?page=summitseries

Joe Schmall
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Travis Sorokie
Junior Member

USA
326 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  10:44:33  Show Profile  Visit Travis Sorokie's Homepage  Send Travis Sorokie a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I'd bet GLD doesn't get 90+ cars either in BOTH S/P and Pro. I've never been there, but it's just a guess.

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Lenny5160
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USA
278 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2008 :  14:41:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joe, do you think the regular BIR crowd would go for combo races? We know the MDRA racers will!

Travis - I have only been to GLD a couple times but they get a pretty decent number of cars over there being right between Milwaukee and Chicago.

Tony Leonard
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FastnFurious
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Posted - 02/21/2008 :  20:57:41  Show Profile  Visit FastnFurious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tony, I just don't know who the "regular BIR crowd" is. If we are talking the hardcore Bracket racer "regular BIR crowd" then yes, but the I need more time trials "regular BIR crowd" NO,the Sportsman/Super class I'm here to get ready for the Nationals "regular BIR crowd" NO. As for myself, I'm just trying to be happy now that they're attempting to run a couple of two day races at BIR.

Joe Schmall
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70 Boys
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USA
270 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  09:44:02  Show Profile  Visit 70 Boys's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Im in actual disbelief that they are finally running the two day programs and I personally couldn't be happier about it.
It's about time. Finally - We can go do some bracket racing instead of camping.

70 Boys
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Travis Sorokie
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USA
326 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  10:50:35  Show Profile  Visit Travis Sorokie's Homepage  Send Travis Sorokie a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I agree...BUT, until we have the "Bracket Meeting" at Pleasureland RV in St. Cloud on March 22...I'm not sure I believe it. Schedules CAN get changed.

It would be nice if we could get Tim Burns or Scott Quick on here to answer some questions ahead of time.

See ya in Staging!!!
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Lenny5160
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USA
278 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  11:44:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 2-day program is just as you say, "a good start." The problem is, you now have a basis to compare the numbers of that 2-day program to other available 2-day programs and the numbers look way out of whack. But racers that really explore their options are the minority. Some don't care much about the numbers, and I guess that is fine too.

Then we get into the fact that you are risking that $160 on a single time run with no safety net (buybacks). I am not a big buyback fan most of the time but if they aren't available I would like one time shot each day.

If I were BIR, I probably wouldn't change a thing. The car count will dictate the correct entry/payout balance and they haven't found one yet that will drive away the racers. They are in business to make money. They currently put roughly 50% of the race entry fees directly into their pocket for Brackets I and II. God only knows what that percentage is on a cash cow like Bracket III who pay the same entry, and 100% profit in the Trophy classes at $45 per car. The racers still show up in droves and put a $275 cherry on top for a parking spot that may or may not provide adequate electricity.

Tony Leonard
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Travis Sorokie
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USA
326 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  12:19:01  Show Profile  Visit Travis Sorokie's Homepage  Send Travis Sorokie a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Brainerd International Raceway does not guarantee the number of runs you will receive in a given day. BIR will determine the number of runs as weather, entries, and track conditions will allow.

Please keep the speed of ALL vehicles in the pits and return roads at 10 MPH or slower.

ET Breaks and Classes:
Super pro: 7.00 to 11.99 (Electronics Permitted)
.500 full tree, with cross talk

Pro: 7.50 to 13.99 (Electronics prohibited)
.500 full tree

Sportsman: 12.00 to 19.99
.500 full tree

Stock/Super Stock: NHRA Index
.500 full tree

Super Comp: 8.90
.400 pro tree

Super Gas: 9.90
.400 pro tree

Super Street: 10.90
.500 pro tree

Comp Trophy: 11.50 to 13.99
.500 full tree

Street Trophy: 14.00 and up
.500 full tree

Bike one/Snowmobile: Electronics permitted
.500 full tree

Bike two/Snowmobile: Electronics prohibited

Jr. Dragsters: Please check the 2008 NHRA Jr. Dragster Rule Book for Class Requirements
Minor: Age 8-9 12.90 or slower

Major: Age 10-18 8.90 or slower

Advanced: Age 13-18 7.90 or slower

Entry fees:
Super Classes: $110.00
Bracket Classes: $80.00
Trophy Classes: $45.00
Jr. Dragster: $30.00
Friday Test & Tune: $55.00
Camping per Night: $10.00
(Drivers camping fee included in racer entry)



See ya in Staging!!!
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steve stockton
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USA
58 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  12:27:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't really see the two day races in Brainerd as big deal for anything other than another points race. It's not really any different than having a gamblers race saturday. If they had a gamblers race saturday as well, that would be different, but they'll have enough trouble just getting one race done.
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Travis Sorokie
Junior Member

USA
326 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  12:34:00  Show Profile  Visit Travis Sorokie's Homepage  Send Travis Sorokie a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Steve---Geez, don't say the "G" Word and BIR in the same sentence. lol

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Lenny5160
Junior Member

USA
278 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  13:16:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At least the Saturday race will be guaranteed and will need to be completed now.

Travis, if your post of classes and info was intended to make a point, I missed it.

Tony Leonard
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Lenny5160
Junior Member

USA
278 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  13:22:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Norwalk Raceway Park:

Moser Super Pro $30 Car and Driver

Winner: $1100 + $2035 Posted = $3135 possible!

Runner Up: $500

Semi Finalists: $125

Quarter Finalists: $75

1st Round Win: $5

Other Round Win: $10


Moser Pro $30 Car and Driver

Winner: $1100 + $1785 Posted = $2885 possible!

Runner Up: $500

Semi Finalists: $125

Quarter Finalists: $75

1st Round Win: $5

Other Round Win: $10

Tony Leonard
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Lenny5160
Junior Member

USA
278 Posts

Posted - 02/22/2008 :  13:32:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I couldn't get Maple Grove's to format well, so here is a link:

http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/sunoco_payouts.asp

Tony Leonard
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