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Overdraft
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Posted - 07/28/2009 :  20:38:38  Show Profile  Visit Overdraft's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm currently trying to get a fat tire ladder bar '82 camaro done/ready with a small SBC.
Before you answer this, I really know, I don't know bracket racing. I've been going up to CFR and watching. Purchased the NHRA 2009 rule book, been asking lots of questions but this is getting very confuseing. What is needed to run at CFR on Saturdays? Is bracket 1 the same as foot breaking? Bracket 2 transbreak and delay boxes? What the hell is trophy? What are basic's needed to get going and have some fun?
Thanks,
Bryan
Ames Iowa

FastnFurious
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130 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 :  01:01:04  Show Profile  Visit FastnFurious's Homepage  Reply with Quote
What you and your car needs as far as safety equipment is dependent on how quick it is. How quick is it? Check out the CFR website as far as rules for each class. Bracket 1 or super pro and Bracket 2 or pro are their money classes which basically means you race for prize money. In the trophy classes the entry usually is less than the money classes and you are racing for trophies.

Joe Schmall
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Overdraft
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9 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 :  11:59:58  Show Profile  Visit Overdraft's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would guess the car will run mid 11's
Bryan
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Lenny5160
Junior Member

USA
278 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 :  15:55:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
11.50 is a pretty big line for a bracket car. When quicker than that you will need a 6-point roll bar, 3.2A/1 fire jacket, and 5-point harness. I don't know what ET a driveshaft loop comes into play, but you will definitely need one if you need the other items I have listed. If the battery has been relocated from the stock location you will need a cutoff switch in the rear.

These are the big things that jump to mind, anyway.

Tony Leonard
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nobox
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129 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 :  16:47:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
To Start with.
If you keep the car 11.50 and slower, all you need is a battery tie down, driveshaft loop. No jacket, no roll bar.
It is real easy to slow a car down to get started and learn the ropes.
I have raced a 69 chevelle for many years in the high 11s and low 12s.In good cool and dry air the car would run faster, so with the summer air it will slow down a little anyway. If it has a stock gas tank just by filling the tank will slow it 3 or 4 hun.
Good luck and have fun..................

Lee
Dugdale
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Prixmo
New Member

USA
67 Posts

Posted - 07/29/2009 :  17:18:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nobox

To Start with.
If you keep the car 11.50 and slower, all you need is a battery tie down, driveshaft loop. No jacket, no roll bar.
It is real easy to slow a car down to get started and learn the ropes.
I have raced a 69 chevelle for many years in the high 11s and low 12s.In good cool and dry air the car would run faster, so with the summer air it will slow down a little anyway. If it has a stock gas tank just by filling the tank will slow it 3 or 4 hun.
Good luck and have fun..................

Lee
Dugdale



If the battery is in the stock under hood location all you need is the hold down. doesn't mater et if moved will need shut off switch. if fuel cell or battery relocated to rear area (this being a camaro with no trunk) there needs to be a firewall sealing them off from passenger compartment area. (if only battery back there an approved box can be used instead of firewall.) At 11.99 you need screw in valve stems or tubes on both front & rear tire. At 10.99 you will need aftermarket axles, retention devices (c-clip eliminators or bolt in axles) sfi balancer and transmission shield. Bracket 1 or super pro is delay box & throttle stops & trans brakes. Bracket 2 or pro no t-stops or delay boxes trans brake ok bracket 3 or sportsman is footbrake class but is 12.00 and slower hope this helps anything else just ask

Unfortunately those with the least amount of common sense are unaware of their lack of it
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Overdraft
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9 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2009 :  18:26:46  Show Profile  Visit Overdraft's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The battery is located in the back next to the fuel cell (the car is back half'd). It being a 3rd gen camaro I think it would easier to use the correct battery box, who makes it? The car has a 9" from Quick Performace with thier axles. The cage in the car is ****, and needs to be removed/replaced (so I'm told). I'd like to have someone look at the car and give me some pointers, I'm willing to drive if some has the time. Thank you for the replies.
Bryan
Ames
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andyschmall
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245 Posts

Posted - 07/30/2009 :  18:39:04  Show Profile  Visit andyschmall's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Gary Loeffelholz owns G&S Dyno and Chassis. He can build you a new cage, set up suspension and many other things. http://www.gandsdyno.com/
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Lenny5160
Junior Member

USA
278 Posts

Posted - 07/31/2009 :  11:22:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gary will be at Cedar Falls this weekend with two Mustangs. A red late-model one running 7.50s and blue '69 that runs 9.20s. His name is only on the red one, but his number on both cars is L566.

Tony Leonard
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Lenny5160
Junior Member

USA
278 Posts

Posted - 07/31/2009 :  12:31:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dig around this site a little bit. The author is a great racer and there is lots of good information to digest.

http://www.staginglight.com/guide/index.html

Tony Leonard
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Overdraft
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9 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2009 :  09:37:31  Show Profile  Visit Overdraft's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That website has helped alot, thanks.
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stronglikebull
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USA
403 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2009 :  21:34:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Brian,If you look at your 1st post you might notice Herb did install spell check so we don't spell words like confusing wrong,,,you might want to use that next time,,,you also used the wrong synonym for Foot Breaking and Trans Breaking,,,It should have read Foot Braking and Trans Braking,,,,,Here's a site to help you with that,,,www.websters.com Hope this Helps!! Shake'N'Bake P.S.Don't feel bad about the spelling,,Steve Roerhs once spelled confused wrong, he spelt it confussed,so it can happen to anyone,,,Tony can't believe you didn't catch this stuff former 8th grade spelling bee champ!!
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Lenny5160
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USA
278 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2009 :  01:41:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Unfortunately for you, Joe, Herb's spell check does not help you spell "Roehrs" correctly. Also, I believe "footbraking" and "transbraking" are each one word rather than two. Sentences should be separated with a period and a single space (they used to teach a period and two spaces when I was in school) rather than a random number of commas.

Tony Leonard
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stronglikebull
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USA
403 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2009 :  21:12:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OOOOUCH!!!,,,,
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Lenny5160
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USA
278 Posts

Posted - 08/11/2009 :  22:19:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Tony Leonard
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Overdraft
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Posted - 08/13/2009 :  08:32:20  Show Profile  Visit Overdraft's Homepage  Reply with Quote
There's always one on every forum, the spelling/grammar Nazi.....
Good to meet ya'
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