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70 Boys
Administrator
USA
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 Posted - 03/25/2008 : 11:13:39
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Geez you guys. I'll stick up for BIR. I actually like the track.
I'll express my top 10.
(1) A lot of tracks charge for pit spots - big deal. BIR has asphalt which is better then most other tracks and electric is an option.
(2) Camping fees have pretty much been eliminated.
(3) Entry fees are comparable. An extra round but it's still $1000 and on occasion it's $1300 on bigger weekends. The round money is just as good if not better then other tracks.
(4) Excellent traction on race day. Better then most.
(5) They know the 1 day races are hurting their car count.
Thus 2 - Day races approved and on the schedule.
(6)Spring of 2009 the additional separate road course is suppose to be completed opening like 13 more weekends , per the meeting, for drag racers and other events.
(7)New Track prep machine was purchased.
(8)New Owner - New Blood and he shows initiative.
(9)Decent parking and staging lanes.
(10)My family likes the scenic drive.
This is my positive response & showing up to BIR is a personal choice.
Personally I like the track. Hopefully it's only going to get better.
Dave Engler
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andyschmall
Junior Member
245 Posts |
Posted - 03/25/2008 : 15:59:03
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| Brainerd is a great track and facility. I'm not saying I don't like Brainerd... There are just a lot of things they can improve on. Brainerd could have a great bracket program and draw more cars from around the mid-west. I think that the decision to bring back Scott Quick was wrong because he had messed up Brainerd in the past. I think that if the track would have stuck with Pat, it would have taken a while but he would catch on to the tricks of running a race track and get a good program together... Hopefully I'm wrong and Brainerd will be the place to race this year... |
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steve stockton
New Member
USA
58 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 08:04:48
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Don't get me wrong, you can't argue with the fact that it's one of the nicest facilities in the country, it's just a shame that nobody can get it close to the best run facility. I always looked foward to seeing the people that race there, it just got to be one bad call after another with the management there and I had enough. As long as Scott Quick is there the only way I would go there is for an MDRA race, and I probably wont go for that either. It seems you never know what to expect because it changes every week, they can't make a consistant call about a gamblers race, their payouts don't match up with the car count, and I pretty sure it is the most expense place to bracket race in the COUNTRY.
Am I the only one that has a problem with the rainout policy? 1/2 your money back even if you never get to race. |
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Lenny5160
Junior Member
USA
278 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 09:01:47
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I agree completely with Andy and Steve.
How about a breakage policy in which you can win 2nd round but not be paid 3rd round loser money UNLESS you push/tow your broken car to the lanes and are paired, THEN tell them you are broke???
$80 to enter Bracket 3/Sportsman???
$45 for a trophy???
Tony Leonard |
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Travis Sorokie
Junior Member
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 09:16:52
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Tony---Your still bitter about that one aren't ya. hahaha
I agree with your last two points...and I have mentioned that as well before, along with Jr. Dragsters---the entry fee is HIGHER at BIR than every 5 state area track.
See ya in Staging!!! |
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BIR MAN
Starting Member
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 09:40:05
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The decision to charge for all the pro pads is to make it fair to those who pay, let people know what is available for sale, and as someone stated, raise money to add more hookups in the future. There is still about 15 all asphalt "first come, first get" parking spots on the new lot south of the condo, with available hookups. We also paved the dirt grid behind the Snap-on bathrooms so with an old piece of carpet you can stay out of the dirt! There is a post under Rock Falls where someone is asking for paid, reserved spots... With every decision I make some are happy, some are not but decisions are made with the best interest of the facility and the racers. I will not debate every issue here but am reading this and other boards as part of an effort to better understand issues and concerns facing our customers, to occasionally correct false information and answer the questions that I can. I have learned our group of bracket racers are mostly well behaved, and am going to reduce daytime security this year, not mentioning names but please do not make me reverse this decision... It is also a goal to get cars down track faster with less waiting, more racing! Payout is the same as last year and will be posted soon. The final details of the "rain out" policy are still being derived for fairness to BIR and racers, BIR will not be responsible for the weather.
I look forward to reading your constructive comments.
Jed Copham
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Travis Sorokie
Junior Member
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 09:47:16
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WELCOME Jed...and thanks for stepping up to the plate and posting BIR's stance here on the MDRA site!!!
See ya in Staging!!! |
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Lenny5160
Junior Member
USA
278 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 09:47:24
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Jed,
Thanks for "manning up" and coming on here to make your points, whether or not the members of this board agree with them. I know that bracket racers can be a tough crowd to please!
Tony Leonard |
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70 Boys
Administrator
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 09:52:44
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Rock Falls has the same 50% return on Rain outs.
From the Rock Falls web site below.
Rain check Policy - No rain checks after the First Round. In the event of a rain out after time trials begin, but before the First Round, 50% credit will be honored for Drivers.
Same entry Fee as BIR
As far as the brackets being ran efficient It was never as good when Pat was running it. Granted he had a few issues to work out but overall his approval status with the racers was very high. I wish he was still the drag manager.
Sportsman (bracket 3 ) class having an $80 entry was ridiculous per the payout ratios. This year I think they changed the Et break so more cars can run the class.
Nice to hear from you Jed. Your Proactive interaction is greatly appreciated.
70 Boys - MDRA
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Travis Sorokie
Junior Member
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 10:00:29
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Mr. Engler is correct---the only issue with BIR's rain out policy vs RFR is that you usually get 2-3 time trials at RFR on race day.
I'm excited to have 2-day events at BIR!!! That will be a huge step in the right direction.
Only thing lacking at BIR in my opinion now is LIGHTS for night racing! But, we all know the issues there....
See ya in Staging!!! |
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andyschmall
Junior Member
245 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 15:37:43
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No, Dave is wrong on the rain check policy. Drivers, spectators, and crew receive 50% credit but the tech-cards are fully reimbursed.
Raincheck Policy - No rainchecks after the First Round. In the event of a rain out after time trials begin, but before the First Round, 50% credit will be honored for Spectators, Crew and Drivers.Tech cards will receive 100% credit less a $5 handling fee.
As found on the Rock Falls website.
http://www.rockfallsraceway.com/prices.shtml
The way Brainerd is handling rain-outs is crazy. Why would you even think about buying a tech-card until first round if theres even a chance of rain. Pay $80 for 2 time trials?? No thanks... |
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Travis Sorokie
Junior Member
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 16:27:07
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I guess the 'wording' is just confusing to me in RFR's rain out policy (what's the difference between "driver" and Tech card)??? Does RFR charge admission for drivers on top of "tech card?"
I haven't been to the place since 2000 I believe...so I am not familiar.
See ya in Staging!!! |
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andyschmall
Junior Member
245 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 16:46:10
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| The "driver" is just the person being there and the "tech-card" is for entering the car in the class. So if one driver enters two classes they'll pay 80 for the first class and 70 for the next. If the program rains out you will only lose your $10 "driver fee" and a $5 handling fee on each tech-card. So $15 on your $80 entry. |
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Herb
New Member
USA
62 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 16:49:50
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So, it's a gamble.
I bet $80 that I can beat all you other racers.
Isn't gambling illegal in MN, WI, and other states. |
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BIR MAN
Starting Member
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 19:30:54
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Anyone with some time want to research the tracks listed in the topics page and post their policies? Every one else keep the policies honest . I do not want the worst policy of the group, with RFR policy it will not be the best however. |
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