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street freak
Starting Member
USA
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 Posted - 03/26/2008 : 21:12:42
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Andy, like father like son you guys can rattle numbers off like rain man. |
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andyschmall
Junior Member
245 Posts |
Posted - 03/26/2008 : 23:00:45
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Cedar Falls Raceway and Eddyville Raceway:
http://www.eddyvilleraceway.com/2007/rules/2007-rules.html
http://www.cedarfallsraceway.com/2007/2007rules.html#Anchor-C-7-37872
C-7. Rain out policy:
**NO rain checks will be issued or event rescheduled after the first round of eliminations is completed
**If a rain out occurs before eliminations, only entry points will be awarded. The event will not be made up unless it is the final points race of the season.
**If a rain out occurs during round one, only completed classes will be scored with round points. Rain checks will only be issued to racers in classes that were not completed. (round 1 only & entry points will be given)
**If a rain out occurs after first round is completed it is a total rain out and no rain checks will be given. All remaining money will be split to racers still in competition. Points will be issued as round wins in classes that have completed a round(s).
Grove Creek Raceway and Rock Falls Raceway:
http://www.grovecreek.com/gen_rules.htm
Rain Policy: No rain checks after the first round. In the event of a rain out after time trials begin but before the first round, 50% credit will be honored for spectators, crew and drivers. Tech cards will receive 100% credit less a $5 handling fee.
Thunder Valley Raceway:
http://www.okthunder.com/racerinfo/racer%20info%20page%208.htm
If rain or inclimate weather begins after the gates open, we will not cancel an event until there is no time in the day left to dry the track, provide for one time trial run and complete elimination's at a reasonable hour. Should rain halt an event after elimination's begin, each driver in attendance that day will be given the points. However points will only be awarded if the entire round of elimination's has been completed. If the round is incomplete, no cars/ drivers will receive points for that round. For example, if there are 14 pairs in round three, and only 13 pairs run, and the last pair is barred from running because of rainout, no cars will receive points for that round. Only if all pairs/cars are run for that round will points be awarded.
Thunder Valley reserves the right in the event of rainout to either call the race and re-run the entire race at a future date. The other alternative that Thunder Valley may exercise is to call the race complete, and split the purse among the remaining competitors in the class. If this second alternative is chosen, then the racers eligible to share in the purse will be determined by looking at the last fully completed round. Thunder Valley will do everything possible to complete the round. If however round six has been completed, and three pairs have been run in round seven all cars that have advanced to round seven will be eligible to participate in the purse.
Rainout will also be called if other circumstances exist that bar the running of the race ; i.e. computer failure. generator failure... There will be no cash refunds. Rain checks only will be given out.
Some of the tracks didn't have the rules posted on their website but this is what I found.
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tazmaniac
Starting Member
26 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2008 : 09:12:50
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Good Day Everyone I am new to this forum but have been following it daily, I will have to agree on a couple of statements but first I have to explain my situation which is by my choice, we will double entry our Charger S/ST& Pro and will have a Junior, we also payed for a spot with electrical. I figured my payout to BIR for the year including T&T (110.00 S/ST,80.00 Bracket 1, 30.00 Jr. 50/30 T&T for both) $2135.00 for the year average $427 per weekend not including the Divisional. Now to the point, not have a time trial on Sunday no matter how many cars and the raincheck issues bother me the most with this investment, again this is our choice, $220.00 for Sunday and not a time trial . To make a long story short more runs would be nice. I have to add I have talked to Scott Quick this past winter expressing certain questions and concerns and he has been exceptional to deal with.
Later Everyone,
Michael Haben |
Edited by - tazmaniac on 03/27/2008 21:41:51 |
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BIR MAN
Starting Member
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2008 : 13:29:28
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Thanks Andy for the info. In 09 I could see having a last date open only for a make up race, and have open testing and gamblers type racing if not needed
Still pondering our rain policy and will have something early may.
Jed
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tazmaniac
Starting Member
26 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2008 : 14:16:11
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| Hey Jed, how's the Chevelle |
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andyschmall
Junior Member
245 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2008 : 18:20:47
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| Even though with the 2 day races there isn't a time trial on sunday, I believe I saw somewhere that if you enter for both days you get to take time trials on Friday for free. If I'm correct on that it's a great idea for the people who need time trials to test their car or tune in their reaction time. |
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Travis Sorokie
Junior Member
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 03/27/2008 : 19:13:05
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Don't know where you seen that Andy....
See ya in Staging!!! |
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70 Boys
Administrator
USA
270 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2008 : 10:27:56
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I know I heard that as well Andy. Where did we hear that from ?
They never said anything of the sort at the St. Cloud meeting ,pertaining to the free Friday time
runs on double weekends, that I can remember but I know it was said prior at some point.
I still feel "NO LAST MINUTE ENTRY TIME RUNS ON SUNDAY UNLESS EVERYONE GETS ONE."
Dave
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nobox
Junior Member
129 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2008 : 20:37:52
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Jed
Please review the rain out policy as soon as possible. I know that almost all the tracks use the 100% back minus 5 dollars. I am sure that it will make a difference for some racers watching the weather from home before they make the trip.
Thanks for now and will be watching the forum, and the BIR website for your input.
Lee
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nobox
Junior Member
129 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 07:05:22
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Travis
To help understand the pricing a Rock Falls
Everyone coming in the gate pays for their wrist band 10 dollars. Then they are a spectator or if they are racing they go to the Tech window and buy as many entrys $70 money brackets. That way they are paying $70 per bracket. It is the wrist band that is 50% and the tech card entrys that are credited 100% minus $5.00
Another benefit of doing it this way. There is no backup at the front gate. You can park in your pit spot and go to the teck window later.
Lee
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Travis Sorokie
Junior Member
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 09:10:43
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Seems like a smart thing to do.
Like I said, I haven't been to RFR in years---but, I'm changing that this year.
See ya in Staging!!! |
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TIN INDIAN
Junior Member
USA
164 Posts |
Posted - 03/29/2008 : 17:56:01
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Originally posted by BIR MAN
The decision to charge for all the pro pads is to make it fair to those who pay, let people know what is available for sale, and as someone stated, raise money to add more hookups in the future. There is still about 15 all asphalt "first come, first get" parking spots on the new lot south of the condo, with available hookups. We also paved the dirt grid behind the Snap-on bathrooms so with an old piece of carpet you can stay out of the dirt! There is a post under Rock Falls where someone is asking for paid, reserved spots... With every decision I make some are happy, some are not but decisions are made with the best interest of the facility and the racers. I will not debate every issue here but am reading this and other boards as part of an effort to better understand issues and concerns facing our customers, to occasionally correct false information and answer the questions that I can. I have learned our group of bracket racers are mostly well behaved, and am going to reduce daytime security this year, not mentioning names but please do not make me reverse this decision... It is also a goal to get cars down track faster with less waiting, more racing! Payout is the same as last year and will be posted soon. The final details of the "rain out" policy are still being derived for fairness to BIR and racers, BIR will not be responsible for the weather.
I look forward to reading your constructive comments.
Jed Copham
Owner/BIR
Jed, Suggestion. How bout you and Scott go to a few Bracket races at other tracks,like RFR,Grove Creek,and Byron. Nothing like scoping out the competition ! you could experience how they all do things and go back and brainstorm on ways to make BIR the best track in the 5 state area. (program wise) the facility is already awesome.
Kinda like a benchmark program. you can take ideas from each track and
make changes to your programs !
Just a constructive suggestion
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BIR MAN
Starting Member
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2008 : 13:24:55
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Wow, nice how a couple of tracks spell about everything out, we need to do the same. Thanks all who posted info,
Tin indian:
If I go somewhere I have to bring a car... I could not just watch. It has been about 10 years since I have been to RFR it would be cool to see it again.
Sorry no free TNT on double weekends.
Tazmaniac: Chevelle looks great, but I am waiting for a nice day to setup the line to test the system, and try a pass or 2.
If we can be efficient for the double races and get a TT and race in on Saturday then it may be possible on sunday as well. If saturday carries over than no sunday TT but we will do our best. No licence passes Sat or Sun of double races.
Anyone know what percent Eddyville, Ceder falls, or thunder valley use for rain checks?
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BIR MAN
Starting Member
USA
24 Posts |
Posted - 04/04/2008 : 13:42:21
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One oops,
our math on the pro pad is causing many problematic calls, 200/year advanced or 150 by the show (for the season) pissed of some that pre buy (tried explaining it was free last year) The new formula will be: price/(number of races) = weekend fee. or 200/5=40. We then can pro rate if they want that spot for the remainder of the year. We extend this offer to any space in the facility someone wants to reserve for the season, or they are first come first get.
There is still fre all asphalt spots with electrical hookups.
It is still 30.00 to leave a rig between races, excluding the July 18 bracket (Because of Nationals)
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andyschmall
Junior Member
245 Posts |
Posted - 04/05/2008 : 02:01:40
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| Cedar Falls and Eddyville give out rain checks which are like free entry cards. So 100% of the entry goes back to the racer but not in cash or check. Rock Falls uses the rain check thing too. |
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